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This Pool is a Little Crowded Part 2

Deadpool (by ReillyBrown on DeviantArt) never seems to take bodily injury or even death seriously.

So last time I was talking about why Deadpool is NOT a hero.  No where does he fit the description of a typical action hero.  So does this mean he’s an anti-hero.  Lets look at that definition.

antihero

an·ti·he·ro [an-tee-heer-oh] noun, plural an·ti·he·roes.

a protagonist who lacks the attributes that make a heroic figure,as nobility of mind and spirit, a life or attitude marked by action or purpose, and the like.

Encyclopedia Britannica  Encyclopedia

antihero

a protagonist of a drama or narrative who is notably lacking in heroic qualities. This type of character has appeared in literature since the time of the Greek dramatists and can be found in the literary works of all nations. Examples include the title charactersof Miguel de Cervantes’s Don Quixote (Part I, 1605; Part II, 1615) and Henry Fielding’s Tom Jones (1749). Some examples of the modern, postwar antihero, as defined by the Angry Young Men,include Joe Lampton, in John Braine’s Room at the Top (1957),and Arthur Seaton, in Alan Sillitoe’s Saturday Night and Sunday Morning (1958).

From the beginning of his series, its been established that Deadpool’s first priority in anything is himself.  He joined the military, not out of a sense of duty or patriotism, but simply for the money.  He later volunteers for the Weapon X program simply to try and save himself from cancer.  (As he notes himself in one of the later issues of Cable & Deadpool all origin continuity depends on which writer you prefer, this is the version I think makes the most sense.)  Like a lot of us, he’s made bad decisions compounded by worse decisions.  He has a hard time figuring out what the ‘right’ thing is and then doing it.  Sometimes, his reactions to events are simply that, reactionary and while on the surface seem heroic, it was never his intention to be heroic.  Then other times he’s desperately trying to be what he thinks of as heroic, which rarely works out well for anyone involved.

Cable tries repeatedly to help him rise above his self-inflicted mediocrity.  It has rather mixed and questionable results. After a very public and very messy break up with Cable, Deadpool kidnaps Taskmaster who is a renowned mercenary in order to prove that he’s still a kick ass merc.  After their fight and the failure of Deadpool’s plan this is what Taskmaster says to him:

Excerpted from Deadpool & Cable #36 originally published Jan 17, 2007.

Deadpool can’t win for losing.

Ouch, buuuurn.  But therein lines the crux of the problem.  Deadpool has no idea what he’s doing.  He’s highly trained and extremely dangerous but completely unfocused.  He basically just does whatever strikes his fancy.  So . . . that leads us to the next topic.  Is he a villain?

Definition of VILLAIN

2: an uncouth person : boor
3: a deliberate scoundrel or criminal
4: a character in a story or play who opposes the hero
5: one blamed for a particular evil or difficulty <automation as the villain in job … displacement — M. H. Goldberg>

Examples of VILLAIN

  1. He plays the villain in most of his movies.
  2. She describes her first husband as a villain who treated her terribly.
  3. Don’t try to make me the villain. It’s your own fault that you’re having these problems.

Origin of VILLAIN

Middle English vilain, vilein, from Anglo-French, from Medieval Latin villanus, from Latin villa

First Known Use: 14th century

Related to VILLAIN

While most everyone who knows Deadpool say’s he’s an idiot most understand that he’s not a complete reprobate.  He doesn’t like killing innocents or causing undo mischief without reason(reason being money).  At one point he lost his hired gun job with King Pin because he chose to save innocent bystanders rather than taking the opportunity to kill Bullseye.  So does that mean he’s an anti-villain?
TVtropes.org has this to say about anti-villains.  “The Anti-Villain is a villain with heroic goals, personality traits, and virtues. Their desired ends are good, but their means of getting there are evil. Alternatively, their desired ends are evil, but they are far more ethical or moral than most villains and they thus use fairly benign means to achieve it, and can be downright heroic on occasion. They reach a kind of critical mass that makes them more good than normal villains but not quite heroes, blurring the line between hero and villain the same way an Anti-Hero does.

Anti-Villain is an attempt to humanize, to lighten up, a villain as opposed to Anti-Hero, which has a tendency to darken the hero. Side by side, it can become hard to tell them apart. The only reason some would even be considered evil at all is because they’re the Designated Villain. Despite this humanizing characterization, they are rarely less dangerous; heroes won’t know what to expect when their enemy offers cookies and then attacks their reputation, without giving them an excuse to rationalize killing them.

They are probably well aware that what they’re doing is “evil”, unlike the blinded Knight Templar, but strive to maintain a facade of good PR. They’ll see it as a viable means to a (possibly) good end.” (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AntiVillain)

So what do you think? Which camp does Deadpool fall into, if any?  Are there any other notable anti villains you can think of?

This Pool is a Little Crowded

So, by now most you understand my fandoms, n’est pas?  Well, along with revisiting my Tron love, I happened to find a box of my old comics.  (I’d boarded and bagged all of them prior to storage of course, I’m a true fangirl after all.)  I still miss my Spawn comics.  Cannot forget that #6 Todd McFarlane cover.  Relatives should never be allowed to go through your things when you move.  Ever.  Sigh.

But I did find my full series run of Dark Horse’s Boba Fett comics that came out before those dreaded prequels.  You know, back when Fett was bad ass and sounded it.

Gorgeous, isn’t it.  Mine is in near mint condition too.  I also have the entire run the Ultimate Spider-Man series.  I had a subscription as any good fan does.  What I realized I am missing though are my Deadpool comics.  I only had a few and none of his series, mostly just random times when he’d show up in other titles.

So, I decided to start re-reading them from #1, online since my local comic book store is woefully short of the titles.  The early runs starting in 1994 (The four book outing with the main series starting up again in ’97) are remarkably different from the ‘Pool we see in comics today.  Oh, don’t get me wrong he’s always been ‘the merc with a mouth.’   The earlier runs had him struggling to become a ‘hero’ and questioning if he could ever live up to that title then there were the times he vehemently denied even wanting to be one.  Good stuff.  He’s quite the poster boy for internal conflict and conflicting motivations.  He can be incredibly violent and nearly sadistic and then turn around and do something totally unexpected and borderline heroic and make you agree with Al that somewhere under all that filth there is a good soul.  By the way, Al or Alfred is the elderly woman Deadpool kept prisoner in his house.  Needless to say their relationship is ultra complicated.

I can hear you mumbling, yes I’m getting to the point okay.  I don’t ramble like Deadpool.  Usually.  Though I do talk to myself or rather to my other selves.  That’s a whole’nother blog though.  I’m getting distracted again.  I blame this yummy rotisserie chicken and The Fray.

So, can someone like Deadpool who has been a killer/murderer for hire for years, be a hero.  Short answer.  No.  Long answer forthcoming:

First, what is a hero?

Webster’s Free Online Dic says:

Definition of HERO

a : a mythological or legendary figure often of divine descentendowed with great strength or ability b : an illustrious warrior c : a man admired for his achievements and noble qualities d : one who shows great courage
a : the principal male character in a literary or dramatic work b : the central figure in an event, period, or movement
plural usually he·ros : submarine 2
4: an object of extreme admiration and devotion : idol
Examples of HERO
  1. He returned from the war a national hero.
  2. the hero of a rescue
  3. She was a hero for standing up to the government.
  4. His father has always been his hero.
  5. He has always been a hero to his son.
  6. A motto of his hero, Thomas Edison, is inscribed on a favorite sweatshirt : “To invent you need a good imagination and a pile of junk.” —Britt Robson, Mother Jones, May/June 2008
  7. [+]more
Origin of HERO
Latin heros, from Greek hērōs
First Known Use: 14th century
Related to HERO
Synonyms: godidolicon (also ikon)

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Other Mythology and Folklore Terms
Rhymes with HERO

Feel enlightened yet.  Yeah, me neither.  By definition #4 anyone can be a hero to someone.  So what makes someone a hero.  Selflessness?  Compassion?  Willingness to act when other’s won’t?  Standing up for what is right?  Sure those are all good things.  Maybe even heroic things.  But where is motivation?  If the motivation is wrong is the action still heroic?  What makes an action heroic?  It’s like the age old question.  Are you brave or stupid?

I’ve always been a bit against the classical archetype of the hero.  I like to see people get beaten down by life and struggle to find a way to rise above it.  I guess that’s why I like our dear old Deadpool so much.  He’s had the snot kicked out of him more times than most Marvel heroes and villains.  Yet, he’s only ever once really gotten to the point he wanted to end it all.  Not that he can all that easily.  Healing factor and all.  But still, you gotta like a guy who loses limbs, gets decapitated and suffers all kind of bodily harm yet never shut’s the hell up.  Well only when he gets ‘really serious’ then its game over. A quiet Deadpool is an oxymoron.

DP is also unique in a few other ways.  He’s not afraid to address his reader directly. Yup, he is notorious for breaking the fourth wall and spouting his own observations about what’s happening in the comic.  In fact, he’s so excited about the upcoming Deadpool video game that he wrote the press release himself.  It’s quite epic and I use it in my class about how to write press releases.  Yup, it’s that good.  Here is the link.  Link.

Another unique thing about our red spandex clad anti-hero, he’s crazy.  Certifiable.  As in hears voices and has full blown hallucinations.  Quite like myself, but that’s my other blog.  I have to admit I find it quite endearing.  He’s so cute when he’s talking to his selves.

The 'Pool is Full

Is it dissociate identity disorder or schizophrenia? My vote is on the later.

When you’ve been through all the stuff DP has then you’d get your sanity link severed too.  It’s really too bad that this character doesn’t get the attention he deserves.  In fact just yesterday/today the artists who’ve worked on DP over the years were called D-listers as in Marvel wouldn’t put A-list talent on a crappy title like Deadpool.  And this by DP’s creator to add insult to injury.

Helloooo . . . waitagoshdarnminute.  Crappy?  Deadpool?  As DP might exclaim: “Exsqueeze me?”   Oh wait, here’s the explanation and honestly, can’t argue with the man on this point.  Linkage.  Rob is right Deadpool is amazing even in spite of, or maybe  because of the fact that he never gets A-list talent.  A-listers have images to uphold.  They can’t be seen slogging through DP’s filthy mind.  D-listers on the other hand have no such inhibitions.  Anything goes as long as they get to work.  And I think that’s one of the reasons Deadpool works.  He’s crazy, violent, chaotic and not afraid to call the reader out on shit.  And that’s why I love him.

 

End of line.  (Crap wrong fandom.)  (Who cares just post it already.)

Lost Souls

So, this past week I have rekindled an old flame . . .-er fandom.  I don’t know how many of you ever watched the original Tron (1982) but as a teen in the 90s I fell in love with the Grid and everything associated with it.  Jeff Bridges,  Bruce Boxleitner and Tron himself.  I was stoked when Tron: Legacy came out in 2010.  Loved it too.  Tron is still my favorite, though I’ve discovered a new attraction as well.  Rinzler.

Rinzler from Tron: Legacy

Rinzler, the deadly and silent enforcer of the Grid.

Yes, yes I know what you are thinking.  He’s the bad guy.  Again.   I can hear you rolling your eyes, stop it.  I’m sorry, well no I’m not, but I like antagonists okay.  And Rinzler is everything a really good bad guy should be.  Powerful, deadly, mysterious, intimidating yet with sparks of humanity glimmering through at times, oh and sexy as hell.  Yes I know you cannot see his face but my dear sweet Loki look at that body.

I’m getting distracted.  Just so you know it’s not all ‘dat ass with Rinzler.  Nope.  Ahem, so on to what I was originally going to talk about.  Also if you have not seen Legacy please read no further for here there be spoilers.

Rinzler

Rinzler first appears in the movie not too long after Sam enters the Grid and is sentenced to the Disc Games for being a stray program.

It was during this that I noticed something odd with Rinzler.  First he recognizes Sam as a user because of the blood and second there is a disturbingly familiar ‘t’ shape on his chest.  My fears are confirmed later when Flynn Sr. recognizes the security program.

Tron wasn’t killed by Clu he was  reprogrammed.

Oh the implications.  Tron would never have willingly followed Clu.  Reprogramming a complex and powerful security program would have been difficult.  And violent.  Stripping away core protocols, changing logic engines, replacing nearly everything that had made Tron what he was; a hero, a champion for programs and users alike.  This is what draws me to Rinzler, this inherent juxtaposition.  The hero is now the villain.  All his skill and beautifully designed functions have been twisted to meet Clu’s needs and wants.

Why do I find this so fascinating?  I’m not entirely sure.  A lot of it has to do with wanting to see the broken restored and the powerful broken.  Rinzler is powerful and broken.  Yet he is able to overcome at the very end and remain true to his core programming.  “I fight for the users.”  This is what we really want out of our heroes.  For them to remain true to their core beliefs no matter what happens to them.  I think it’s something we all hope we would do if so challenged, remain true to ourselves and our beliefs.

Something else I find fascinating is that Rinzler is able to overcome centuries of being  under Clu’s control once he’s given the chance.  Confronted with his first real challenge since being rectified he rejects what he’s held for so long.   He rejects Clu’s teachings of their previous enslavement by the users and realizes that it wasn’t the users who enslaved the programs, but Clu.    Clu himself is exactly what Kevin Flynn created.  A program to keep the operating system at peak function.  However Kevin didn’t realize that perfection is not sameness.  Perfection is doing one’s function at the highest possible capacity.  This oversight on his part lead to Clu’s rebellion, Tron’s ‘death’ and subsequent purge of the isomorphic algorithms.

We have all made mistakes, though hopefully none with such grave consequences.  That’s also what I love about this movie.  There are consequences to the character’s actions, real ones.  I dislike it when everything is all wrapped up in a tidy little bow at the end of a movie.  Bows can unravel with just the right tug but some people seem to forget this.  That is why I’m not a fan of the so-called happy ending either.  It’s unrealistic.  Yes, I know what you are thinking, we are discussing an alternate reality set inside a computer and I’m talking about realistic life scenarios.  But the setting is not the issue, the content is.

So, what do you want see out of a character?  Especially ones like Rinzler or Loki?  Defeat or redemption?

The Victim and the Martyr

The victim is preyed upon, unawares until the deed doth fall.  The martyr marches on, head high, sword gleaming, until death wields it’s heavy hand.

The Victim

When I first started writing Sorrow’s Fall, I had a very clear idea who my protagonist would be, but not what that would mean for the other characters.  As I worked through different plot scenarios and wrote scenes, it became clear to me that my protagonist was not the ‘good guy’ neither was he the stereotypical ‘bad guy‘.  I’ve always quailed at such polarization’s.  In fact the first working title of the novel was Shades of Grey for years since nothing is ever truly black and white. (How glad I am I didn’t go with that!)

Now that I’m into writing the second novel I’m learning even more about him and how he relates to those around him.  In Sorrow’s Fall he was  more of a victim of his own upbringing.  Unable to break free of the burden placed on him.  Now he knows he has choices.  But the burden of freedom can be even greater than the burden of enslavement.  Now he has to fend for himself and that includes deciding who is friend and who is foe and what to do about it.

This brings up an interesting conundrum.  Is he an anti-hero or an anti-villain?  The two terms are not mutually exclusive and a definitive definition is hard to pin down.  Not even Wikipedia can decide.  I see them as basically same except for one point; motivation.

Sorrow is intrinsically flawed and has issues with morality.  His motives tend to be toward self preservation first and for others a distant third.  He knows little to nothing of love or kindness and as such has no idea how to show them.  Does this mean he’s a villain?  Too a lot of people, yes.  He’s a murderer and some people would say a sociopath.  To other’s he’s a hero who protects their lively hood and keeps them safe from the threat of war.

So who is right?

The Martyr

As any of you who’ve read my other posts know, I am a huge Loki fan.  I do not see him as villainous.  Misunderstood and reviled for his actions, yes.  But not evil.  His actions might be reprehensible but his intentions are based on his need for love and acceptance.  Even in the myths he’s the scapegoat, the one punished even when things are not entirely his fault.   Time and time again he sacrifices himself to right a perceived wrong on his part or a misunderstanding.   Though there are times when he is fully to blame yet he is never saved from the consequences of his actions.

Mommy, look at me! by jen-and-kris


And then there are times he does things fully knowing he’s going to suffer greatly for it.  Yet he goes ahead and sacrifices himself.  Much is made of his deviousness, yet little is said about the massive intelligence behind it.  He always knows what he’s doing and that makes him less of a victim and more of a martyr.

I find parallels between the two.  Both come from troubled backgrounds with contentious family members and deep seated problems.  Loki finds out he’s adopted.  Sorrow finds out he’s not.  Both have older siblings they hate.  Loki tried to commit suicide and Sorrow is- well I won’t spoil it for you.